On this "crossover" episode, Adam and economist Bob Murphy talk about the nature of belief in reference to God or gods. What is the proper way to think about religion. Is it good? Bad? Both?
00:00 — Intro. Bob loves the Haman Nature livestream music!
02:21 — Adam the atheist starts things off by giving a nod to the positive aspects of religion on society.
06:35 — Bob reveals his own intellectual trajectory regarding religion.
15:40 — Adam asks Bob how much of the positive benefit of religion comes from having ANY religious belief and how much from having the CORRECT religious belief.
20:40 — Is there anything Bob could have been told when he was an atheist that would make him believe? What does consciousness reveal about the materialist worldview? Also, believing is seeing!
38:46 — Adam brings up the atheist/agnostic distinction. Words and definitions matter. Also, assuming materialists haven't answered all the questions of the cosmos, why should we fill that informational hole with the doctrines of the Church? Bob gives his answer.
49:03 — Adam doesn't believe the Jesus story, and offers a framework about why different people have different "thresholds" for evidence regarding these sorts of claims. Bob underscores why he thinks that claim is so persuasive.
51:47 — What does Bob think about Jordan Peterson's project of bringing religious concepts to a more secular audience? What does Bob think about Scott Adams's God's Debris story? What would it mean to "become one with the universe"?
62:53 — Why do we need "a God that loves us" rather than just pursuing "the good"? How does Harry Potter relate to this concept? Bob explains.
71:06 — Outro. Adam and Bob solved every religious puzzle!
Thanks for watching Haman Nature!
Natural Order "Believing is seeing!" podcast mentioned:
Bob Murphy Show "Proof for Jesus's resurrection" podcast mentioned:
Adam on X: @Rerazer
Bob on X: @BobMurphyEcon
Adam's other podcast: Natural Order Podcast
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